time to write a lua matrix library because tabletop simulator is a fuck and only gives Object.positionToLocal and Object.positionToWorld, and the only angles available are euler angles, but not exposed as an angle type, just a vector

glua is a fucking mess but at least they give real transformation functions

resist the urge to write a tabletop simulator clone

@0x57e11a could conceivably make one in Godot

@pan could. if it does go for it, it might experiment with bevy first

@pan but godot is nice

@0x57e11a ooo written in Rust, good sign nod nod

@pan would likely end up embedding lua in it, since lua is actually not that bad, even if moonsharp (unity-compatible c# lua implementation) is abysmal dogshit (re: the Posts it has made about tts + lua)

might try piccolo some, but mlua (just bindings to lua 5.1/5.2/5.3/5.4/luajit/luau) with luajit is almost guaranteed to be faster (or luau… we shall see. wait fuck is that a commitment. fuuuuckk)

@0x57e11a @pan bevy’s come a really long way but it’s still rough around the edges (especially for ui). i’ll be using it the minute some of that cleans up

@pan imagine it would be funny if this project ended up being backwards compatible with tts (hell, maybe even pull steamworks-rs and do tts-compatible networking)

huge commitment it doesnt really want to do but it would be neat if it was a thing

@rowan @pan it cant be that much worse than unity ui

@rowan @pan <- hasnt looked much at bevy_ui yet

@0x57e11a @pan would it be surprised if i said that its substantially more frustrating to use that unity ui (and unity’s ui toolkit, which i got just got done ranting about a couple weeks ago)

bevy’s ui example page is actually like,, perfect for illustrating the problem

@rowan @pan the hm yeah that's. something

would probably use egui but seriously doubting that's really doable for 3d ui objects like unity does

@0x57e11a @pan upside is that bevy’s team is tracking how uh, Terrible their ui is. so it’ll improve! but yeah,,.

there used to be like, react-like wrapper macros around it (which i think is the direction bevy is talking about going?) so that might be worth checking out!

@rowan @pan ahh mhm

will look at community projects like lunex n stuff

@rowan @pan "will" well fucj, now it has to :AAAAAAAA:

@0x57e11a @pan if it wants a way out, it already technically looked at lunex. objective complete :3c

(though its idea does sound really really cool if actually deciding to pursue)

@pan ohhh fuckk imagine if it wrote terra bindings…