humanity has produced a satisfactory amount of fiction in which robots become indistinguishable from humans. however, you have yet to produce satisfactory fiction in which humans become indistinguishable from robots.

@OctaviaConAmore @redrozalia ooh that’s a good point! Wearing Power Armor to a Magic School might actually be a great example, now that I think about it

CW: the bad guys in this world are extremely powerful and tyrannical and regressive and emotionally abusive and horrible and the omnipresence of their abuse was kinda suffocating for me personally but I’m very sensitive. I absolutely loved it otherwise though

@kasdeya
do you have any recommends for strongly pro-hubris fiction?

@redrozalia hmm that’s a really good question! I’m sorry to say that I don’t because I’m very sensitive and don’t read a lot of fiction. I think Greg Egan’s Amalgam-Aloof universe could be considered that, because it’s a world where basically every problem that isn’t existential in nature has been solved with technology, but the stories generally aren’t about that. but if you’re interested in that kind of thing, then I’d also highly recommend Diaspora by Greg Egan too (just be warned that there’s a lot of extremely technical infodumping about math stuff too lol. Greg Egan loves that type of thing)

a lot of rationalist fiction tends to be extremely pro-science and pro-hubris, of course, but I haven’t read too much of that - I could only recommend the obvious ones lol

honestly now I’m really curious if anyone else has any good recommendations because I’d love to read something like that

I find it funny how in fiction hubris is a high-brow way of saying “you scienced way too hard and now the universe is going to punish you for Defying The Natural Order™” with the implication that hubris is some kind of character flaw: the character flaw of trying to make things better with science

but in actual Greek myths hubris basically just means “you proved you were better than a god at something and all of the gods are massive raging narcissists so now they’re going to curse you about it”

except where’s the Greek myth about someone committing hubris by inventing agriculture and mortally wounding the god of starvation? or the Greek myth where someone commits hubris by inventing the bifurcated needle and killing the god of smallpox?

it was hubris to invent vaccines. it was hubris to discover how to safely transfuse blood. oral rehydration therapy, germ theory, chlorinated water, synthetic fertilizers. all of these things Go Against The Natural Order and have saved millions to billions of lives, because guess what? the natural order is a fucking atrocity of unimaginable scale. and we are actively stopping it every single day we learn something new about the universe. I think “hubris” is an inherently reactionary concept and it can go straight to hell, which we’re going to destroy someday with science

@Valdus unfortunately I’ve had a really hard time filtering out distorted bodies. because tags like big_boobs and huge_boobs and hyper_boobs are all separate from each other, and one person’s big_boobs is another person’s hyper_boobs so it’s all a matter of opinion as well. plus there are so many body parts to distort, like lips, ass, cock, boobs, thighs, etc. and for each tag there are at least 3-4 variations (big, huge, hyper, etc.). and often people just don’t tag body part sizes

but idk I think maybe I should just get used to looking through a bunch of stuff that I don’t like in order to find things that I do like - I feel like that might be an experience that everyone has on the internet

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“hm I really like this character from this game. they have a very hot personality, an alluring yet restrained character design, and I like that their body is thin and reasonably-proportioned. let’s see what rule34 there is of them”

*I am drowned under a wave of massive dripping futa cocks, enormous jiggling tits, and hyper fat asses. also they completely changed the character’s personality into a stock porn archetype*