“well I think I’m learning that Neovim is not nearly as stable as I’d like, but I wonder if Emacs is any better”

Emacs:

@kasdeya is that windows or does it just look vaguely like it

because that may cause problems, i run emacs in cygwin in windows

@kasdeya also why are you launching doom

@wyatt oof that’s good to know. yeah it’s running natively on Windows right now

@wyatt there’s a batteries-included Emacs config called Doom Emacs hehe - so that’s what the Doom stuff is about

@kasdeya if you want to get rid of that message about scratch you might want to find what the "~/" directory is in windoze and make the directories leading down to the scratch file so emacs can write a scratch file in it

that's just my guess, i dont remember emacs using ~/ in windows so i am wondering if that mighe be some misconfiguration

@kasdeya if doom emacs doesn't explicitly support windows i'd not expect it to honestly but I don't know for sure, i just started with stock emacs and then fucked with my config until i liked it

@kasdeya "Nix/Guix is a great idea!" - in the readme for doom emacs

that's a red flag in my opinion

@kasdeya also this being someone trying to make emacs be vim instead of just at least attempting to learn emacs rubs me wrong but that's minor by comparison, i'll admit i changed some bindings to make emacs behave a little more standard-ly (cua copy/paste and stuff)
Trying to make it a replacement for vim instead of addressing it on its own terms feels like a mistake
i'll admit i never tried evil mode

@kasdeya i think starting with vanilla emacs, loading evil-mode if necessary, and seeing what feels like it's missing or is frustrating and manually changing things bit by bit will lead to a better understanding of how it works and probably less frustration

especially if you're not used to emacs lisp or lisp in general

@kasdeya@cryptid.cafe @wyatt@soc.megatokyo.moe i think the problem is doom. that dir does not exist in my config (on openbsd or on linux) and i don't get that error. imo better to install emacs without window manager stuff (eg, 'emacs-nox' on arch), then start with empty config and build up stuff u need via web searching rather than install those sort of bloatware.

@brettm @kasdeya exactly, start fresh and figure out what you actually want and need