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I should not have to learn Unity and C# to (possibly) get paid. I should be paid to write everything from scratch in Python

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neocat_drake_like making software

neocat_drake_dislike learning how to use software for making software

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I’m an anti-tinkerer. if I don’t immediately understand how to use a piece of software then I never want to use it again

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I feel like most folks on here probably really enjoy learning complex new software but as soon as I even have to open a config file I want to throw my computer out a window

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@kasdeya honestly, same for music business and recording cat_dead vtubing, on the other hand, somehow gets around this bear_shrug

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@kasdeya meh. You can probably carry over that settings file... You set it up pretty much once and carry over until it doesn't work anymore

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@kasdeya Lol, I'm at the part in a project where I'm trying to get like a full network of local computers up, with a firewall, storage, dns/dhcp, and such. And I procrastinated so long, and am still struggling to actually work on it, because I am having to set all that stuff up and it's a struggle. I spend a lot of time reading manuals, and handbooks, and searching, and then I still have to edit the dang things! And every time I put it down, then I have to remember where I was when I restart. Like, it is cool when I feel like I completely understand something and have got something set up right! But it is a lot of work and normally there is something else I wish I was doing that this is in the way of.

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I like writing code a lot. in fact writing code is my favorite hobby - even more than video games

visual editors, operating systems, server software, GUI frameworks, IDEs, package managers, APIs - these all get filed in my brain under Stupid Bullshit I Have To Fucking Learn Before I Can Write Code Goddamnit

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@kasdeya I mean, you don't have to

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@ity unfortunately I’m trying to get hired to write code which means I need to learn a bunch of very complicated tech from the top down and I am Not enjoying it :/

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@kasdeya ah

I don't think I ever wanna work writing code ever again, I'm probably gonna be a sysadmin or smth

Sure I'm overqualified for most coding jobs but I just don't wanna, they manage to beat the fun out of coding and make it not even worth the money

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@ity yeah I totally understand that. I might end up feeling like you too tbh. like right now I just need some kind of income and this is maybe the only thing I’m good at - but I’m definitely not looking forward to taking my main passion and turning it into Work™

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@kasdeya I worked with JVM internals, IntelliJ internals, the Java compiler, Gradle internals, JVM bytecode, I'm writing a WASM -> Java compiler for fun, to run Rust and C++ natively on Android. I reverse engineered the instrumentation protocol used by Java profilers, and the debugging protocol used by debuggers.

I was hired to write fucking tests for a Spring app for $5/h and the fuckheads working with me could not even figure out that there's a .delete() method on the temp file handle which I used for refcounting to make the app less buggy, and used the internal .getFile().delete(). I was the only competent dev on the entire team and I was supposed to be an intern.

It's not that thet didn't know I was more competent than them. I passed their regular full-time Java dev interview. They just hated the fact I was not even finished with HS at the time.

They even asked me to work full-time, for the miserable $5 an hour, and that was when I quit x3

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@kasdeya the even funnier part was that they didn't even tell me what I was gonna be hired for, and made me learn TypeScript and Angular first

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@ity that is absolutely infuriating omg. was that your only tech job? I can’t believe they paid you $5/hour - that should be illegal

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@kasdeya so far yea

Trying to get hired for sysadmin stuff, failing

Tried to get hired at one devjob, at RedHat, but they didn't like that I didn't have a uni degree

(I manage the fedi instance I'm on along with half a dozen other services (Matrix, XMPP, Jellyfin, Gitea, Element...), and apparently good at managing VMs and networking stuff, like netfilter, netns, VLANs, VPNs..., and apparently that's more than most sysadmins. I also RE'd an enterprise hardware RAID controller for fun, to add smartmontools support for it)

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@ity unfortunately I’ve had similar experiences. nobody wants to hire me because they don’t believe that I actually know anything that I’ve said I know. it’s either that or because I’m trans, or because I don’t have a degree. it’s honestly impossible to say but I hate it

you sound plenty qualified to be doing all kinds of work. I hope you can find something at some point - if it’s still something that you want

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@kasdeya it's cis people being cis people tbh

They don't want anyone qualified, they want someone that looks qualified but isn't (so they can pay them less without them caring)

That's why they love LLMs. Perfect thing to replace employees with - sucks shit so hard it cannot really do anything, but it looks like it can and that's all that matters because that gets them money

That's why proprietary software is such slop, too.

I wish I could get a job at a company whose business is not just scamming others with slop but actually doing something.

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