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the LGBT+ urge to make vampires represent queer people despite how incredibly problematic that allegory is

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@kasdeya yeah but they serve so hard

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X-Men and True Blood were both trying to do roughly this kind of thing and both of them ran into inherent problems with their allegories and the whole thing just got really messy and ham-handed in both cases

but also… magical queer people with superpowers 🥺

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Demi-chan wa Kataritai uses “being a monster” as an allegory for various disabilities and I thought that it actually did a good job, although in order for that allegory to work they had to make the “monsters” disappointingly mundane and human

but I think that might be the only way for this type of allegory to work

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what makes a monster appealing is how frightening and dangerous/powerful they are - but if you introduce that to an allegory about a marginalized group then the allegory is going to have some Very Bad implications

that doesn’t stop me from wanting some empowerment-fantasy fiction where queers are powerful, scary monsters though lol

I’m still trying to figure out if there’s a way around this problem or if these two things are inherently incompatible

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@wyatt ooh is this character a vampire in the story? I don’t know anything about this game

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@kasdeya ...sort of? very, *very* vampire-y vibes but just called a "mystic" in-game in the english version. But the other mystics sleep in coffins, and they're very obsessed with blood, so… yeah I'd say so. Or close to it.
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@kasdeya oh and she survives several things that would normally kill someone
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@wyatt oohhh this actually sounds really cool. and also the whole situation that you screenshotted feels very queer-coded and relatable too (being thrown out by your parents for being Different)

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@kasdeya (a major point of her character is that she is neither and also both a human and a 'monster,' and that her actions define her rather than a label)
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@kasdeya it's a very "RPG-y" RPG in ways you may find infuriating (I certainly do even though I love a lot of stuff about the game as well). Just as a warning, since I know you often do not like RPG's. Asellus is one of many characters you follow the stories of. I've not finished it but would like to at some point.
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@kasdeya Actually i just remembered, there's a girl who has a crush on her that serves as a narrator for large parts of her story. Also Asellus wears "men's" clothing. It's all very queer coded
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@wyatt oh - thank you for letting me know! to be honest I try to avoid any game with an emphasis on story at the moment, but it’s cool to hear about this game through you instead

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@wyatt that’s honestly amazing - I love a queer-coded vampire lol. I also love the theme that her actions define her, and not what she is. it reminds me of how the game Nocturne plays with the idea of a monster

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@kasdeya the game is highly nonlinear in nature, that might help you. Maybe.
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